Rejecting a Job Offer Got Me Banned From Mexico!

Hello ISR, I have a unique situation I hope your readers can help me with:

In 2012, I applied to teach at a handful of international schools and accepted a position at a school in Mexico. When the school later contacted me, it was explained that I would have to book my own flight and upon arrival, arrange to find and rent my own apartment! That said, I backed out of the job.

 Had the details of the job been made clear in the beginning, I would have declined the Mexico offer right then and there. Some time later, I accepted a job at a school in the Middle East where everything was arranged in advance of my arrival.

At the time, I didn’t think much about turning down the school in Mexico. After all, I had no reason to give it another thought. That was, until I recently traveled to Mexico on vacation and was denied entry into the country!

Upon consulting with the Mexican embassy in the United States I learned I had been put on a blacklist of sorts, all due to rejecting the Mexico school offer. It seems so insane someone actually had the power to do this to me!

I just wanted to check in with ISR:  Have you heard of this happening to anyone else before? This would be helpful information.

I appreciate your time.
T.

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20 Responses to Rejecting a Job Offer Got Me Banned From Mexico!

  1. CW says:

    Understandbly this is shocking. Reality is a verbal yes to accept a position is as good as the signature on the contract; the school has made an investment and committment you’re their top choice ergo whatever contractual provisions are later detailed are included in a verbal yes. It’s important to ask all the necessary questions prior to giving verbal acceptance to any position overseas. Housing, insurance, pets, travel, etcetcetc. If those details do not match what’s been agreed to verbally then backing out on a contract would potentially be an out, the school is not acting in good faith.

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  2. Angie Barnett says:

    This is totally outrageous, did you sort it out?

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  3. Ana Paula Rocha Mateos says:

    Horrible! This is totally exaggerated
    I fail, miserably, to see where school and mex migration fall in the same category
    I am so sorry u had to go through this
    Mexcans w money can b a bit too much
    What school was this?

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  4. mwalimu says:

    It is neither unusual to have to pay for your flight upfront and then be re-imbursed ( it is a guarantee for the school that you will actually arrive ) or to have to find your own accommodation ( you would expect the school to give some help or guidance ) , but at least that way you get what you want. ( The other way you get what you are given …whether it suits you or not ( with possibly no possibility to change ! )

    I too have declined a post in Mexico ( but at a much earlier stage ) but there are quite a few other countries where I wouldn’t be confident that you won’t be blacklisted. ( The Gulf States come immediately to mind , Tanzania – I have seen it happen , China wouldn’t surprise me ( and I spent 5 very happy yeas there ) ……there are 200+ counties worldwide and in 200 of them I would have no confidence that the rule of law will be followed. ( And in case anyone wants to ask I am a Brit and I have no confidence that the UK gov. will follow the law. You only have to look at the number of times the UK gov . have been dragged before , and lost at, the UK Supreme Court, the European Court ……)

    Moral of the story : It is a big , nasty world out there. There are only 2 methods ( not mutually exclusive ) that I know to get round these problems : do your research thoroughly ( and be grateful for ISR ! ) and keep enough in a First World bank account ( or have a relative with the money ) in case you need to get out fast.

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  5. I have the same fear about another country. I resolved that either a) I’m not going to ever go there again, or b) am okay with the risk of losing my money and time if I want to chance it and go.

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  6. Brad says:

    It’s reasons like these that Mexico is the butthole of North America. No rule of law and no transparency. It’s a shame because so many of the Mexican people are absolutely the nicest and toughest people I have ever met.

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  7. Will says:

    This is a good example of not doing one’s homework before accepting an international position. The rules are different in every nation and in every school. I will say this though, I have found looking for an apartment in a new culture one of the most stressful experience I have ever had. NOTHING is like it is in the US, and I mean nothing. So now when I am looking for a position outside of the current culture I am living in, I look to see if the school provides or provides help. I do not rely on what was said doing the interview. It needs to be in the contract.

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  8. Anonymous says:

    Hundreds if not thousands of international teachers break commitments or do runners every year. What else did you do?

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  9. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt says:

    Some years ago a woman working in Kuwait (I believe) was stopped while trying to leave the country. /The story was on ISR. Apparently she had disciplined an unruly high school student by putting him in detention. The wealthy family objected to their “prince” being reproached and were able to block her exit from the country. This happened during the Winter holiday when she was detained at passport control. IT came as a complete surprise. It took months to straighten this mess out. And as I remember the school was of no help.

    The incident that is taking place in regards to Mexico sounds like the same sort of scenario but in reverse. Before you go pointing fingers at Mexico, keep in mind that there is a pack of movie stars right now in the US facing jail time for bribing schools to accept their under achieving kids. It seems the entire world is corrupt these days.

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  10. Andrew Kempe says:

    I am not saying that you being banned from the country is reasonable.

    But rejecting a job offer is not what happened here. Unless the school promised you those benefits in writing and you then reneged, what actually happened was that you entered into a commitment to work for the school and then broke that commitment.

    ISR and the author should have been a bit more careful about using language effectively.

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    • Umut Karzai says:

      Andrew stop supporting an action that is indefensible.. The person didn’t take the job, so you ban him from the country come on now REALLY!!!

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    • omgarsenal says:

      So what you’re saying is that the teacher entered into a verbal or contractual commitment (did or did not sign a contract) but is at fault, yet the school did the same, hiding salient information and yet is not? Double standards seem common in overseas education, and language is the least of T’s concerns….this is so typically ¨Mexican¨ that it is laughable anyone would defend the school. I would love to know what ¨school¨ it was so ISR members can studiously avoid it. The only thing T is culpable for is not doing their due diligence well enough. T should contact her local and national government and get them to make a stink about this abuse of power and vengeful manipulation. Umut is absolutely right…lean on your representative(s) and ask them to lean on the state department….usually Mexico will fold like a cheap house of cards….

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      • Umut Karzai says:

        Omgarsenal, Thanks for the praise.. I have a feeling you live in or have lived in Mexico at one time.. The Mexican government is OH, SO brave until the U.S. calls and starts leaning on them and yes they do collapse like a house of cards!! T should have the State dept.. lean hard..

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        • omgarsenal says:

          I did work in Mexico (the DF and Quéretaro) for almost 8 years and enjoyed it BUT I saw how the rich and wealthy school owners and their lackies will do what they want and run the risk of legal pursuit regardless of how much it ¨ruins¨their ¨reputation¨. Anything can be bought for 200+ pesos as my Mexican friends would often remind me….la mordida is an institutionalized tradition from the lowliest cops to the highest politicians. I was glad to see the back of them and the ass-kissing administrators who didn’t want to rock their luxury yacht! American and British schools generally are better run, that is true.

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    • Phil says:

      I agree. You made a commitment and then reneged on it. You say the school did not tell you you would have to book your own flight. Did they tell you they would do it for you?
      It appears like you did not research fully and didn’t live with your decision.
      I don’t know Mexican schools, but I have worked at several international schools, some that require you to pay your own way there and others that fly you at their expense. Both types were good places to work at, just with different contractual conditions.
      If this was your first try at international education you might not have known what to ask about, but regardless, I disagree with anyone pulling out of a contract like you did. Do your contract then leave, but do not put the school in such a difficult position by pulling out like this.

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      • Marian Catholic says:

        If he had signed a contract and then changed his mind, he would be at fault albeit the consequences. But if a contract had been signed, the flight and accommodation terms should have been stipulated in it. If not, the candidate would be at fault only for failing to inquire.

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      • Umut Karzai says:

        Phil, Until you know how the bait and switch works here in Mexico you shouldn’t be so hard on what seems to be a newbie teacher.. Here in Mexico when a school talks to you about a job they will allude to paying for things, but they never, put these things in writing, so here I blame the teacher for only being naive.. I’d have rejected the job as well knowing how the schools work here in Mexico. The only really honest schools here are the American and British owned and operated schools the rest are at best a cautionary tale!! A lot of them are down right nightmares..
        I happen to teach at one of the good ones in San Miguel de Allende, but I was very lucky in finding this school.. Don’t be such a judgemental person next time Phil!!

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      • DPTrain says:

        A US citizen was denied entry into Mexico for a minor contract disagreement with a Mexican international school, and that denial took place several years after the incident. Agreed that T should have communicated the details of her needs / expectations to confirm in writing beforehand the agreement with the school. The other main point is that the school’s, and country’s, response was completely disproportionate and indicative of a banana republic mode of operation. It is thus a cautionary tale about the state of politics in Mexico. It isn’t hyperbole to note that the US seems to be tending in this direction, as do many places around the globe in these troubled times. Thus cultural and business savvy and excellent communication skills are as critically important now as they’ve ever been.

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  11. Thai Beaches are Better Anyways says:

    Many International School’s have become a safe haven for shady members of society to become leaders (not all of course). Weak men and women in positions of power will try to exert that influence where ever they can. I have observed that many Directors and members of Admin abroad washed out of their roles in the states or the UK due to their flaws and shady practices. We had a curriculum director once who was a Superintendent in the states, the person suffered a unanimous vote of no-confidence from the entire teachers union due to incompetence. Their ultimate solution was to go abroad where they could not be held accountable.
    I feel for you, not being able to ever go to Cabo, but look at it another way. If this is how they reacted when you refused to play the game and work at the school, imagine how much worse it may have been if you’d accepted the position.
    You dodged a major bullet and should be thankful. International teaching has become a minefield and the weak have their hands on career (or in this case travel) detonators.

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  12. Umut Karzai says:

    There are some powerful families in Mexico, who can have something like this done, but, if you want to go to Mexico you should have your Senator lean on the State dept. in turn they will lean on the Mexican government most of the time the Mexican gov. will fold and lift such a ban on travel.. This usually will take about a month, but it has worked for me and several froends of mine..
    In fact I am now a permanent resident in in Mexico now.. Most Senators are very happy to help their voters in such situations..

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